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In education we know that learning results are better if the students are motivated to learn and if they are willing to learn and to become skilled. In my educational design work we search for possibilities to stimulate this íntrinsic motivation for development. So far we have good results with enterprising education, that means education organized as small challenging enterprises. Who can explain me the relation with brain activity?!

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We have just begun in the OECD Learning Sciences and Brain research project to explore the issue of motivation and learning, so I am excited to start a thread on this topic. You should take a look at our most recent report on the Emotions, Education and Learning Seminar which has just been put up on the main website: http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/41/30/34098220.pdf
see especially pages 7-12 which deal with motivation. I am pasting an excerpt from page 9 of this report:

What is motivation?

Roughly, motivation can be defined as whatever causes to act. As such, motivation reflects states in which the organism is prepared to act physically and mentally in a focussed manner, that is, in states characterised by raised levels of arousal. Accordingly, motivation is intimately related to emotions as emotions constitute the brain's way of evaluating whether things should be acted upon; approached if pleasant or avoided if unpleasant. Thus, the emotional system (associated with the amygdala and the orbitofrontal cortex) is tapping directly into motivation by affecting our level of arousal (which again is controlled by structures in the brain stem). It is worthwhile to distinguish between external and internal (intrinsic) motivation. Both are dependant on emotions, but whereas external motivation is achieved by affecting the behaviour of the organism from the outside (through punishment and reward) intrinsic motivation reflects the organism's wishes to fulfill internal needs and desires (e.g., hunger, thirst, sex). A lot of the important things neuroscience has to say about motivation in the context of learning thus concerns emotions; and often the part that relates external motivation through punishment and reward. Nevertheless, there is also fairly good neuroscientific evidence suggesting that curiosity can be considered as an intrinsic motivational drive. Accordingly, novelty in the learning environment is probably an important element in motivation as novelty awakes curiosity. Interestingly, detection of novelty is associated with the hippocampus which, as we know, is an important structure in memory encoding and memory consolidation.

Humans like other animals have “motivational drives” which are linked to our emotions, and it has been proposed that one of these drives is curiosity. There are also strong indications that motivation and emotion affect the memory system. To a large extent, all animals including human
beings are driven by unconscious desires that are not fully understood by them, except when they go wrong (and you end up with people with addictions to alcohol, gambling, drugs, etc.), yet it is these very same mechanisms driving most of our behaviour. The impetus for this may be external stimuli such as rewards and punishers, but at the same time there are also internal drives, which drive those truly pleasurable things that you do just for the pleasure of it. Most people will have experienced this from something they did actively (usually using motor
skills), like learning to ride a bicycle for the first time, but without external reward. The mechanisms of these internal drives are not well understood, and are presently difficult to study with neuroimaging techniques.

We would love to receive more questions and views on motivation for learning from teachers.
Dear teachers,

How important do you think motivation is in determining achievement? For example: Can unmotivated geniuses exist? Is the effect of motivation domain-specific in that it matters more in certain cognitive areas than in others?

All the best,
Christina
OECD expert Wrote:Dear teachers,

How important do you think motivation is in determining achievement? For example: Can unmotivated geniuses exist? Is the effect of motivation domain-specific in that it matters more in certain cognitive areas than in others?

All the best,
Christina

Hi Christina,
Perhaps related to this, is the article that JustMe provided from the NACD on Digit Span? Where digit span refers to the amount of recieved information, that is maintained in working memory. Which is defined as 'reverse digit span'.
The extent of one's 'reverse digit span', determines whether when reading or listening. One is relating this 'word' as you read it, with the sentence it is part of. Then to paragraph it is part of. Then further back to the overall theme of the article/ chapter/ book or whatever?
Given the vast amount of information that the brain is recieving from all of the senses at any moment in time. It needs to combine a filtering process alongside a prioritization process.
Which is in a constant state of evaluation.
I particularly noticed in the NACD's research into Reverse Digit Span, that 'anxiety' had a noticable effect on reducing its extent.
So that 'incoming information' is very quickly discarded.
So that it is does not become a part of long term memory.

Yet, given the effect that anxiety can have on reducing Reverse Digit Span, and in turn the discarding of recieved information.
I am caused to speculate that when 'Motivated', it may in fact expand one's Reverse Digit Span.
Where this expansion essentially provides 'more time' for recieved information to be integrated into the 'prior knowledge' neural network?
So perhaps motivation is the overarching determining factor?
Geoff.Smile
An ealier post from the administrator gave a definition motivation as "motivation reflects states in which the organism is prepared to act physically and mentally in a focussed manner". In which case, how does this relate to ADHD? Children diagnosed with this condition find it difficult to act physically and mentally in a focussed manner. Does this mean they are lacking some quality called "motivation". Or does it mean that they find it difficult to enter such states? And if so, can they be taught to do so without medication? Or,, as some have said, the condition does not exist as a pysical condition, but is the result of early attachment difficulties and other emotional problems? In short, I am confused about whether ADHD exists in the same way that diabetes exists, or whether it is essentially a learned behaviour. I would be foolish to tell a diabetic child not to feel woozy and pay attention if they were going into a hypo, so am I being just as foolish expecting better behaviour from a child with ADHD by behviour modification techniques alone? Or, if it is learnt behaviour, can it be modified? Sorry if this sounds a little muddled, it's geting late and I have two ADHD children to face tomorrow in my class. What is the latest state of research on ADHD?
Thanks for your question.

ADHD is not characterized by a lack of motivation, but by inattention and hyperactivity. It results from an interaction of biology and the environment.

Please take a look at the follow primer on ADHD, which represents the current state of ADHD research:
http://www.oecd.org/document/7/0,2340,en..._1,00.html
Just let me know if you have any further questions.

Keep up the good work!

Best,
Christina
The issue of comorbidity in relation to ADD and ADHD needs to be further considered.
Where attention deficit can be a symptom of an underlying Learning Disorder?
Where the Learning Disorder can make it difficult to engage in activities which utilise the relevant faculty/ies.
For example, the comorbidity of ADD and Dyslexia has been questioned. Given that a Student with Dyslexia can only be expected to have difficulty with maintaining attention in activities that involve reading.
Unfortunately the label of ADD can also be used by some Schools to avoid addressing the underlying learning disorder. As it can be passed on as a medical condition with medication as the solution.
It can be a convenient scape-goat?
Geoff.
geodob Wrote:The issue of comorbidity in relation to ADD and ADHD needs to be further considered.
Where attention deficit can be a symptom of an underlying Learning Disorder?
Where the Learning Disorder can make it difficult to engage in activities which utilise the relevant faculty/ies.
For example, the comorbidity of ADD and Dyslexia has been questioned. Given that a Student with Dyslexia can only be expected to have difficulty with maintaining attention in activities that involve reading.
Unfortunately the label of ADD can also be used by some Schools to avoid addressing the underlying learning disorder. As it can be passed on as a medical condition with medication as the solution.
It can be a convenient scape-goat?
Geoff.

Hi GeoffSmile, You have really opened a can of worms that needed to be opened. I have been working with my grandchildren's physicians until I am blue in the face. My oldest grandson is age 12....this is the child that had his eye removed at age 1.5 due to retinoblastoma[cancer]. He is fine a developing well, however he developed ADHD with comorbid tourette syndrome. The doctors tried to balance the two disorders until my grandson was shaking all over. He was taken off of all meds. He still has the disorders but not seriously manifested. His big adjustment is school with focusing. He is a wonderful young man who has gone through a great deal with a good spirit....I love him dearly.
Best,
RobSmile
OECD expert Wrote:Thanks for your question.

ADHD is not characterized by a lack of motivation, but by inattention and hyperactivity. It results from an interaction of biology and the environment.

Please take a look at the follow primer on ADHD, which represents the current state of ADHD research:
http://www.oecd.org/document/7/0,2340,en..._1,00.html
Just let me know if you have any further questions.

Best,
Christina


But if motivation is defined as being a a state to be physically and mentally focussed, then inattention means not being in that state, therefore by definition the child with ADHD would lack this "motivation". I am querying the definition of motivation.
I also feel that to say it results from an interaction between biology and the environment is accurate but unhelpful, as so does most of the human condition result from such an interaction. Without biology Romeo and Juliet would not have fallen in love, without their environment they would not have died!
Hi Tresco,
You raise an interesting point?
Can Motivation and focus of attention be separated?

Given that the brain is in a constant state of recieving information from all of our Senses. Along with retrieving information from our Memory.
As well as being involved with Thinking, in our Working Memory.
The focus of attention is selectively applied to one aspect of this plethora of incoming information. In turn, reducing attention given to other incoming information.
Though amongst this abundance of incoming information, what is it that determines where our primary attention is focussed?
Where I can only conclude that it is motivation that directs our primary attention?
Whilst our attention might be overwhelmed by the pain messages coming from a tooth-ache for example.
Most of the time, we are selecting what we give our focus of attention to.
Where the major determining factor, is surely what we are Motivated to give our attention to?
Though it does also raise the question of being able to focus attention, as a declarative skill?
Yet as I reflect on the very recent epidemic of Attention Deficit Disorders in the Western World.
I also recall the common statement, that we are; 'living in an age of information overload'?
Perhaps this might explain why ADD didn't seem to exist 30 years ago?

Maybe in this emerging age of information overload, the ability to maintain control of our focus of attention. Has become a skill that needs to be directly learnt?
Geoff. Smile
Thanks for this discussion.

Tresco21, I am not sure where that definition of motivation was found, but it does not represent the consensus in the field. Attention can be thought of as a likely consequence of motivation, and focus is considered to be one aspect of attention.

Certainly, an inability to focus could be discouraging for your student, and therefore decrease his motivation. However, inattention is not itself a lack of motivation.

I hope this is helpful,
Christina
Hi Christina,
You wrote: However, inattention is not itself a lack of motivation.

Though what is thing called 'attention'?

Given that at any moment in time, our brain is recieving a spectrum of sensory information. Surely their is a need to prioritise and select? Which will be the primary occupant of our Working Memory.

Therefore, what is it that actually determines where our attention is focussed?
Where 'I' seems to be the Director?
Which prioritises where attention is devoted and what is diverted to Working Memory.
Yet it seems to me that the selection of what is diverted to Working Memory, is primarily self- determined by what we are motivated to give attention to?
So that motivation is the overarching factor?
I cannot think of any other factor that holds greater influence than motivation?

Yet just to contradict myself, in regard to your statement that: "However, inattention is not itself a lack of motivation."
A commonly used term these days, is that we live in an age of ; Information Overload?
Where Attention Deficit Disorders may in fact be an inability to effectively cope with this ever-growing Information Overload?
So that perhaps Attention Management skills might need to developed?

So that the epidemic of Attention Disorders, may in fact be a result of an overwhelming amount of distractions?
Where new coping skills need to be developed?

Geoff.Smile
Christina
I refer you to the post that started this thread for the definition of motivation I quoted. I look forward to your comments on it.
Deborah
Thanks Deborah. I understand how you were thinking about this now in that context and it is an interesting connection that you made.

To clarify, the term motivation is generally used to label potential. Therefore, your ADAH student could be motivated to learn, but his inattention could prevent this potential from becoming an act of effective learning. Another concept, metacognition, refers to a student’s ability to carry out effective learning.

I hope this is helpful!

All the best,
Christina
Smile Good morning,

The goal for this years science focus seems to be motivation in human learning. As we look at motivation, it is also a good idea not to leave out special needs children and adults who have most often been put on the back burner when it comes to inclusion of this type. Science can learn something profound from people of special needs. Motivation is manifested so clearly in the gentle nature of a down syndrome child reacting to Maslow's foundation of needs. The needs that Maslow expresses are just as profound in special needs children as neurologically typical children. The special needs child tends to manifest these expressions and especially these motivations with zeal.
Be well,
Smile Rob
Good EveningSmile December 8, 2005

Learning and motivation...vital topic....where shall we start? Experiential learning might depict motivation through physical and mental manifestion when dealing with sports. You know fully well that some coaches can really motivate their students...while some can barely do so. But if you watch and be in the presence of a great Olympic Swimming Coach[George Haines], who in my mind is the greatest swimming coach in history; he was not only a great trainer but was able to motivate his swimmers to dig deep within themselves, and call upon their neurobiological substrates to bring forth their best performances when needed. The swimmers and coaching staff knew that George really really cared about those kids and they love him for caring so very much.

The motivational substrate is not necessary to depict in the exact location of the brain since each individual is able to find it without brain surgery...but with the experiential responding to the greatest of teachers.
Best,
RobSmile
January 4, 2006

MorningSmile,

Neuroscientist have declared this the year of "motivation". By doing that it put motivation as a cynosure in the field of neuroscience and education. We know that students do much better when motivated, but how does a student self motivate. This can come by studying the brain and since we know that it is true, the lessons in class can be centered around how the brain motivates us.....and how do we get ourselved to activate healthy motivational brain systems.
Best.
RobSmile
Good morning....Smile January 15, 2006

We have a neat article on an ant teaching it's student and the student is obviously motivated because it is thirsty. Several things...learning...navigation and motivation.
Url retrieved January 15, 2006 from the internet [Scientific American]. This has some interesting implications.....
Best,
RobSmile URL: http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?chanID=...ref=nature
HiSmile January 19, 2006

If we think carefully about learning and motivation, it really comes down to this. If we have three people with equal ability performing in an athletic event or academic contest, the person most likely to win would have the most _______________. Ever hear the phrase.....they just wanted it more than we did....This is said by many football and basketball coaches after losing a close game. Motivation can make up for other area of deficit, it can also be great without deficits....
Best,
RobSmile
January 23, 2006

Good MorningSmile,

A flash bulb finally went on in my mind...[figure of speech]. But notwithstanding the pun, I did finally put it together when we say 'learning and motivation'; obviously it is not in a vacuum....it is a neurological systems analysis. One thing seems to affect the other, meaning that motivation, emotions, etc can affect the natural propensity of a human's innate [inclination] to learn. I am not saying this very well, but what I am saying, I will describe. "A seven year old child really can activate their innate learning system when interested in the topic, motivated, [is]emotionally involved, sees relationships to other prior learning constructs....etc. etc. This I believe is what we want to happen...thoughts?
Best,
RobSmile
March 13, 2006

Good MorningSmile

Scientists have told me that motivation is key and will be the salient emphasis on this years agenda. Realization has finally come that motiation is the KEY to perserverance and learning. Motivation is KEY to staff energy.....Motivation is just plain....KEY...
Best,
RobSmile
Good MorningSmile
Retrieve from the internet today
Best,
RobSmile

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Some people feel they work in an environment where doing a good job is like wetting your pants in a dark suit ...it gives you a warm feeling but nobody notices!

Deficiency motivation doesn't work. It will lead to a life-long pursuit of "Try to fix me." Learn to appreciate what you have and where and who you are.
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Remember that what pulls the strings is the force hidden within; there lies the power to persuade, there the life - there, if one must speak out, the real man.
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